Julius Keilwerth brass serial numbers
Seriennummern
15.000 - 49.999Super de luxe serial number 20634
go to Keilwerth brass serial numbers 27 - 4.999
go to Keilwerth brass serial numbers 5000 - 9.999
go to Keilwerth brass serial numbers 10.000 - 15.000
On a separate page you'll find the general information about the history of Keilwerth brass instruments
There are serial number lists of Keilwerth saxophones around but there was no such thing for their brass instruments. Below you'll find a list of instruments and numbers that were traded through Ebay, Quoka and such, with information added from sites like Trompetenforum.de (where Brigantiumjazz triggered me to make this list), Trumpetherald.com, Trumpetmaster.com, Horn-u-copia and the Yorkmaster public pictures at Yahoo. There seems to be no relation whatsoever between the serial numbers of Keilwerth saxophones and their brass instrument serials numbers.
The serial number list of brass instruments with more than 650 entries, that's maybe 2 percent of Keilwerth brass production, shows a fairly continuous serie up to number 30654, with a few examples of every 1000. Then, after a few incidental Tonekings, new models show up, like the 2000 and 3000 series and the Student. The jump, first to the 100.xxx range, with mostly 'Student' instruments and then to the 200.xxx range with the 'De Luxe 2000' and 'Super de Luxe 2000' models could originate in other makers providing the instruments, as stated above. Here the gaps between the numbers are much larger. That's probably because they are part of a serial number list that includes the makers 'own' instruments as well as other stencils. And maybe also because these are newer and still with their original owners, so they down't show up on Ebay and other sites? Then there are incidental examples of the Modell AT and SX of which we don't know a number. La Sete and Hamilton instruments are integrated in this list, although they're not all made by Keilwerth, the La Sete instruments in the 15x.xxx range obviously come from Elkhart, Indiana.
For additions and corrections: please contact me. Information about the year an (your) instrument was acquired is very helpful.
20039 | Toneking | 1970's | MbKG valve numbers 1,2, 3 | |||
20072 | Toneking de Luxe | valve numbers 1,2,3 | ||||
20161 | 3-4-1971 | |||||
20268 | Toneking | |||||
20500 |
Toneking de Luxe |
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20613 |
Super de Luxe |
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MbKG bicolor |
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20634 | Super de Luxe | MbKG | ||||
20731 | Toneking de Luxe | Valve Trombone | ||||
20732 |
Toneking de Luxe |
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Valve Trombone |
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20914 | Toneking | |||||
21096 | De Luxe | |||||
21100 |
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Messing lacquered |
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21167 |
Toneking de Luxe |
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21174 | Toneking de Luxe | MbKG valve numbers 1,2,3 | ||||
21205 | Toneking de Luxe | end 70', begin 80's? | ||||
21210 | Toneking de Luxe | MbKG valve numbers 1,2,3 | ||||
21289 |
Toneking |
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Cornet |
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21478 | Toneking | |||||
21739 | Toneking de Luxe | MkKG, valve numbers 1,2,3 | ||||
21765 | Toneking de Luxe | 45 years old in 2016 | MbKG valve numbers 1,2,3 Musik-Schaller Kaiserslautern | |||
21774 | Toneking de Luxe | MbKG | ||||
21779 | Toneking de Luxe | ca 40 years old in 2017 | MbKG, valve numbers 1,2,3 | |||
21902 | La Sete | with Julius Keilwerth mouthpiece | MbKG, valve numbers 1,2,3 | |||
21904 | LA Seté | MbKG source: HUC | ||||
21982 | La Sete | MbKG | ||||
22047 | Hamilton | MbKG valve numbers 1,2,3 | ||||
22051 | La Sete | MbKG, valve numbers 1,2,3 | ||||
22069 | Toneking | MbKG, valve numbers 1,2,3 | ||||
22090 | Hamilton | MbKG | ||||
22219 | Hamilton | MbKG, valve numbers 1,2,3 | ||||
22266 | Hamilton | MbKG | ||||
22275 | Hamilton 1040 | Garanteed by Grossman Music Co, Cleveland Ohio, from a store that closed in the 70's | MbKG, valve numbers 1,2,3 | |||
22318 |
Hamilton USA 1040 |
Purchased from Grossman Music Co. in the early 1960’s |
MbKG |
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22319 | Hamilton | two tone, with Hamilton mouthpiece | MbKG, valve numbers 1,2,3 | |||
22337 | Hamilton | came with a trumpet book from 1971 | MbKG, valve numbers 1,2,3 | |||
22351 | Toneking | valve caps and bottoms adjusted, black finish added | MbKG | |||
22466 | Toneking | MbKG | ||||
22491 |
Toneking |
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22510 | Ardsley | MbKG valve numbers 1,2,3 | ||||
22641 | Toneking de Luxe | MbKG valve numbers 1,2,3 | ||||
22643 | Toneking de Luxe | MbKG valve numbers 1,2,3 | ||||
22714 | Toneking de Luxe | MbKG | ||||
22756 | Toneking de Luxe | MbKG | Cornet | |||
22850 | Toneking | |||||
22870 |
Toneking |
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22943 | Toneking de Luxe | MbKG valve numbers 1,2,3 | ||||
22948 |
Toneking de Luxe |
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MbKG valve numbers 1,2,3 |
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23001 | Toneking de Luxe | |||||
23157 | Toneking de Luxe | MbKG, valve numbers 1,2,3 | ||||
23207 | Toneking de luxe | MbKG, valve numbers 1,2,3 | ||||
23240 |
Toneking de Luxe |
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MbKG, valve numbers 1, 2, 3 |
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23300 | Toneking de Luxe | MbKG, valve numbers 1,2,3 | ||||
23479 |
Toneking de Luxe |
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23484 | Super de Luxe | MbKG | ||||
23545 | Super de Luxe | |||||
23564 | Super de Luxe | MbKG | ||||
23661 | Toneking | Made by Keilwerth no valve numbers | ||||
23664 | Toneking | |||||
23484 | Super de Luxe | MbKG, no valve numbers | ||||
23868 | Superba 1 | bought second hand in Michigan in 1978 | Made exclusively for H. Couf by Julius Keilwerth W. Germany valve numbers 1,2,3 | |||
24054 | Valve Trombone | |||||
24065 | Toneking de Luxe | 70's? | Valve Trombone | |||
24082
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Toneking de Luxe | |||||
24187 | Toneking | MbKG, valve numbers 1,2,3 | ||||
24212 | Toneking | |||||
24245 | Toneking | MbKG, valve numbers 1,2,3 | ||||
24277 | Toneking | MbKG, valve numbers 1,2,3 | ||||
24278 | Toneking | more than 40 years in 2015 | ||||
24424 | Toneking | 1973 | ||||
24474 | Toneking | MbKG, valve numbers 1,2,3 | ||||
24552 | Toneking de Luxe | MbKG, valve numbers 1,2,3 | ||||
24577 | Toneking de Luxe | MbKG, valve numbers 1,2,3, | ||||
24584 |
Toneking de Luxe |
Ca 1968 |
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24688 |
Toneking de Luxe |
End of the 60’s |
bicolor |
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24701 | Toneking de Luxe | MbKG valve numbers 1,2,3, | ||||
24770 |
Toneking de Luxe |
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24787 | Toneking de Luxe | ca 1970-1975 | silver | |||
24796 | Toneking de Luxe | MbKG valve numbers 1,2,3, | ||||
24815 | Toneking de Luxe | silver | ||||
24817 |
Toneking de Luxe |
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24872 |
Toneking de Luxe |
Ca 1970 |
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24916 | Toneking de Luxe | MbKG, valve numbers 1,2,3, | cornet | |||
24924 | Toneking de Luxe | MbKG, valve numbers 1,2,3, | cornet | |||
24961 |
Toneking de Luxe |
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25141 |
Toneking? |
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25177 | Toneking | MbKG, valve numbers 1,2,3 | ||||
25369 | Toneking de Luxe | MbKG, valve numbers 1,2,3 | xx | |||
25405 |
Toneking de Luxe |
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25451 | Toneking de Luxe | MbKG, valve numbers 1,2,3 | ||||
25455 |
Toneking de Luxe |
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MbKG, valve numbers 1,2,3 |
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25461 | Toneking de Luxe | MbKG, valve numbers 1,2,3 | ||||
22576 | Toneking | MbKG, valve numbers 1,2,3 | ||||
25654 | Toneking de Luxe | 40-50 years old in 2018 | MbKG, valve numbers 1,2,3 | |||
25680 |
Toneking de Luxe |
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25692 | Toneking de Luxe | ca 1975 | ||||
25720? | Toneking | |||||
25761 | Toneking | MbKG, valve numbers 1,2,3 | ||||
25849 | Toneking de Luxe | 50-60 years in 2013 | ||||
25863 | MbKG valve numbers 1,2,3, round valve caps/bottoms, trigger |
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25883 | Toneking de Luxe? | Julius Keilwerth W. Germany valve numbers 1,2,3, round valve caps/bottoms Volksbank Warstein | ||||
25924 | Toneking de Luxe | |||||
25926 | Toneking de Luxe | |||||
25943 | Toneking de Luxe | MbKG, valve numbers 1,2,3 | ||||
25949 | Toneking de Luxe | 60's or 70's | ||||
25980 | Toneking de Luxe | MbKG, valve numbers 1,2,3 | valve trombone | |||
26047 | Toneking | MbKG, valve numbers 1,2,3 | ||||
26064 | Toneking | MbKG, valve numbers 1,2,3 | ||||
26109 | Toneking de luxe? | |||||
26197 | Toneking de Luxe | 90 | ||||
26138 | Toneking de Luxe | xx | ||||
26238 |
Toneking de Luxe |
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26265 |
Toneking de Luxe |
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26270 |
Toneking de Luxe |
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26317 | Toneking de Luxe | |||||
27386 | Toneking de Luxe | |||||
26658 | Toneking de Luxe | MbKG valve numbers 1,2,3 | ||||
26711 | Toneking de Luxe | MbKG valve numbers 1,2,3 | ||||
26756 | Toneking de Luxe | MbKG valve numbers 1,2,3 | ||||
26762 | Toneking de Luxe | MbKG valve numbers 1,2,3 | ||||
26790 | Toneking de Luxe | MbKG valve numbers 1,2,3 | ||||
26808 | Toneking de Luxe | MbKG | ||||
26841 | Super de Luxe | MbKG valve numbers 1,2,3 | C trumpet | |||
26856 | Super de Luxe | |||||
26861 | Toneking de Luxe? | MbKG | ||||
26873 | Super de Luxe | Julius Keilwerth W.Germany | ||||
26875 | Toneking de Luxe? | Julius Keilwerth W.Germany | ||||
26884 |
Toneking de Luxe |
'50 yr old' |
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26950 | Toneking de Luxe | MbKG valve numbers 1,2,3 | ||||
26961 | Toneking de Luxe | Valve Trombone | ||||
26968 |
Toneking de Luxe |
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MbKG valve numbers 1,2,3 |
Valve Trombone |
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26995 |
Toneking de Luxe |
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MbKG valve numbers 1,2,3 |
Valve Trombone |
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27291 | Toneking de Luxe | MbKG | ||||
27301 | Toneking de Luxe | MbKG | ||||
27420? | Toneking de Luxe | MbKG | ||||
27529 | Toneking de Luxe | MbKG valve numbers 1,2,3 | ||||
27621 | Toneking de Luxe | ca 30 years in 2017 | Cornet | |||
27853 | Toneking de Luxe | MbKG valve numbers 1,2,3 | ||||
27918
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Super de Luxe | Julius Keilwerth W.Germany | ||||
27919 | Super de Luxe | '80's' | Bundy H. & A. Selmer Inc case | |||
27963 |
1982-1986 |
ex coll. Jim Glass |
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28134 | Toneking | MbKG valve numbers 1,2,3 | ||||
28347 | Toneking de Luxe | MbKG | ||||
28364 | Toneking | MbKG | ||||
28380 |
Toneking |
Ca 1970 |
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28542 | Toneking | no MbKG valve numbers 1,2,3 | ||||
28561 | Toneking | |||||
28736 | Toneking de Luxe | MbKG valve numbers 1,2,3 | ||||
28890 |
Toneking | |||||
28943 | Toneking | valve numbers 1,2,3 | ||||
28959 | Toneking | |||||
29036 | Toneking | |||||
29107 | Toneking de Luxe | 70's? | Made in Germany, bicolor | |||
29136 | Toneking de Luxe | |||||
29404 | Toneking de Luxe | valve numbers 1, 2, 3, | ||||
29456 |
Toneking |
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29543 | Toneking | valve numbers 1, 2, 3, octagonal valve caps/bottoms | ||||
29599 | Toneking | |||||
29620 | Toneking | bought June 8th 1977 | no MbKG valve numbers 1,2,3 | |||
29659 | Toneking | no MbKG valve numbers 1,2,3 | ||||
29699 | Toneking | more than ca 30 years in 2015 | ||||
29786 |
Toneking |
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29834 |
Toneking |
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bicolor |
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29844 | Toneking | Julius Keilwerth W. Germany valve numbers 1,2,3, octa-gonal valve caps/bottoms | ||||
29900 | Toneking | no 'Made by Keilwerth' Germany, valve numbers 1,2,3 sandblasted | ||||
30019 | Toneking de Luxe | 20-30 years old in 2018 | MbKG valve numbers 1,2,3 | |||
30036 | Toneking de Luxe | 1970 | black and gold | |||
30046 | Toneking | MbKG valve numbers 1,2,3 | ||||
30049 | Toneking de Luxe | MbKG valve numbers 1,2,3 | ||||
30121 | Toneking | 40-50 years old in 2013 | MbKG | |||
30147 | Toneking | MbKG valve numbers 1, 2, 3, octagonal valve caps/bottoms | ||||
30159 | Toneking | before 1979, from Rio de Janeiro | MbKG | |||
30162 | Toneking | MbKG valve numbers 1,2,3 | ||||
30165 | Toneking | |||||
30206 | Toneking | MbKG valve numbers 1,2,3 | ||||
30242 |
Toneking |
'Ca 40 years old in 2012' |
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30257 | Toneking | MbKG valve numbers 1,2,3 | ||||
30383 |
Toneking |
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black and gold |
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30585 | Toneking | Julius Keilwerth Toneking valve numbers 1,2, 3 | ||||
30645? | Toneking | Julius Keilwerth Toneking valve numbers 1,2,3 | ||||
30658 | Toneking | late 70's/ early 80's | Julius Keilwerth W. Germany, valve numbers 1,2,3 | |||
43577 | Toneking de Luxe | |||||
44xxx | Toneking | silver | ||||
44902 |
Toneking |
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45413 | Toneking | |||||
45490 | Toneking | no 'Made by Keilwerth Germany' | ||||
46425 | Toneking | no 'Made by Keilwerth Germany' | ||||
46435 | Toneking | no 'Made by Keilwerth Germany' | ||||
46499 | Toneking | no 'Made by Keilwerth Germany' | ||||
46529 | Toneking | 40-50 years old in 2015 | trombone | |||
49999 | Toneking | MbKG valve numbers 1,2,3 |
go to Keilwerth brass serial numbers 27 - 4.999
go to Keilwerth brass serial numbers 5.000 - 9.999
go to Keilwerth brass serial numbers 10.000 - 15.000
For some instrument there is a more or less reliable date of purchase know. Based on these dates the graph below is made. Note that an instrument bought at a certain time may have waited in the shop for a considerable amount of time, sometimes several years. So drawing a line between the lower dots gives an approximation of the timeline of the production of Keilwerth brass, that is the first 30.000 Keilwerth instruments, which I believe is their own production.
year
serial number
If you note any discrepancies, or have additional information concerning the
Keilwerth history and Keilwerth brass instruments, please
contact me.
Additionally, I would be grateful to anyone who owns a Keilwerth brass
instrument not listed to
contact me with the name, type and serial number (etc.). It would be nice to
build the list also using other horns than those that are being sold.
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Sources
bassic-sax.info/version5/vintage-saxes/european-made-saxes/julius-keilwerth/jk-nauheim
saxwelt.de/index.php/geschichte/keilwerth
www.ebay.de www.ebay.com etc.
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